tl; dr: alles is in orde gekomen en de mevrouw van de helpdesk voor gevorderden bij Hainan Airlines is een reddende engel en een fantastische persoon die niet genoeg betaald kan worden.
Oh, ik heb tijdens de vakantie nog een aantal moeilijke momenten gehad op de helpdesk. Wat voorafging: vlucht 1 (A naar B) en dan vlucht 2 (van B naar C); vlucht 2 is zoveel uur vervroegd dat hij vertrekt vóór vlucht 1 toekomt; ik probeer dat aan te passen; na veel vijven en zessen krijg ik een case number en schrijf ik een mail naar de luchtvaartmaatschappij.
Het plan was: wachten tot maandag en kijken of ik tegen dan een antwoord kreeg.
Quod non.
Diep ingeademd dan maar, en getelefoneerd naar China (toll free, gelukkig). Met mijn lokale AI (Gemini, in dit geval, omdat die de neiging heeft echt snel en goed te antwoorden voor actuele zaken.)
De eerste vraag van de luchtvaartmaatschappij, na een half uur of meer wachtmuziek en situering van het probleem: of ik officiële screenshots doorgestuurd had voor de vluchtwijziging? Ik zeg dat ik een mail heb van mijn reisbureau, dat ik daar een screenshot van kan nemen en naar welk adres stuur ik dat door?
Zij: ah maar wacht, het is via een boekingagentschap gebeurd, dan kan ik uw vlucht niet reschedulen. HA! Daar zat ik op te wachten:
I understand that is the policy for voluntary changes, but this is an involuntary schedule change. Booking.com cannot touch this because the airline’s system has locked the PNR.
Under IATA regulations, since this is an 880 ticket stock issued by Hainan, Hainan is the validating carrier and owns the duty of care. Case Number XXX is already logged in your system as an involuntary change. Can you please escalate this to your supervisor or the Ticketing Desk right now so they can take control of the ticket and process the involuntary rebooking to the later Asiana flight?
Dat veranderde de zaak helemaal, want ze zei eigenlijk meteen dat ah ja eigenlijk nu ge het zegt, I can help you reschedule, but I can’t help you cancel the original booking. Dat is exact wat ik nodig had: het ticket moet niet gecanceld worden, de vlucht in de bestaande PNR moet gerescheduled worden naar een andere vlucht enekel uren later.
Waarop zij: yeah but no but yeah but no because the ticket was issues from a different agency we can’t make a nuw booking inless the other booking is canceled. We can’t help you change you flight unless the other booking is cnaceled.
Oh no alert alert. De hele boeking cancelen zou willen zeggen dat ik nieuwe dure tickets zou moeten kopen. Het probleem is wellicht datr ze het nieuwe vluchtsegment niet kan toevoegen zolang het oude vluchtsegment daar actief zit te zijn.
No, I do not want to cancel my ticket. Please keep our existing booking reference XXX. Inside our current booking, please cancel/remove only the old, broken flight segment (OZ 368) from Shanghai to Seoul. Once that specific segment is removed, please add the new flight segment (OZ 362) to our existing 880 tickets. You are modifying the existing ticket, not making a new booking.
Ah pech: I can’t do that since the ticker number will change because is was a third party agency. HEt probleem is dat het hier om een onvrijwillige verandering gaat, en daar zijn de procedures anders voor dan als het om een vrijwillige verandering gaat:
I understand, and it is completely okay if the ticket numbers change. That’s exactly what happens during an Involuntary Reissue. Because this is an involuntary schedule change on an 880 ticket, Hainan Airlines has the authority to override the travel agency and perform an Involuntary Reissue (INVOL REISSUE). You do not need my booking agency’s permission to do this. Please speak to your Ticketing Desk or a supervisor right now and ask them to perform an Involuntary Reissue to swap the flight to OZ 362. I am perfectly happy to receive new ticket numbers.
No go, helaas: I can only cancel the reservation, nothing else. Ik blijf volharden van “No, thank you. Do not cancel anything. Please leave the booking exactly as it is.” en ik was al helemaal van plan om te escaleren naar een ander kanaal, maar! Ineens gaf ze mij een website om proof of cancellation naar te uploaden — dat was haar allereerste vraag in het begin van het gesprek!
Ze zei ook I will see what I can do, but this can impact future dealings with our airline. Mijn lokale AI wist mij wel gerust te stellen:
That phrase—“this could impact future dealings with their airline”—is almost certainly a clunky, automated translation of a common Chinese airline support phrase: “影响后续行程” (yǐngxiǎng hòuxù xíngchéng). What it actually means is: “This will alter your remaining itinerary.” When an airline manually steps in and overrides a third-party ticket (Booking.com), they “take control” of the electronic record. This means the booking agent will no longer be able to see or modify your flights, and any future updates for this specific trip will have to go directly through Hainan. That is standard and exactly what you want.
However, we need to be extremely careful right now. The web link she gave you contains the parameter
ccSpcRefund=new. “SpcRefund” stands for Special Refund. Because this agent previously told you she could “only help cancel,” there is a distinct risk she is using an involuntary refund portal to wipe out the ticket rather than reschedule it.Before she hangs up or closes your file, you need to get absolute, 100% verbal confirmation that she is rescheduling you, not refunding you.
Ik stuur mijn screenshot door, de reactie aan de andere kant van de lijn: Before I can make a reservation, if the real agency does not cancel the original booking, it might have a fee; since the connection is with Asiana Airlines, the travel airline where you purchased needs to cancel the booking. Zij ging een reservatie maken aan haar kant, en dan moest ik de boeker contacteren om te cancelen, en dan Hainan opnieuw contacteren.
Dan zijn we even in een soort stand-off geraakt: cancelen is absoluut niet wat ik wil doen. De mevrouw aan de telefoon sprak uitstekend Engels, maar het was ook duidelijk dat er ruis op de vertaling zat, en het was alvast voor mij echt niet duidelijk of we wel degelijk in de involuntary exchange-procedure zaten.
Na enige over en weer, bevestigde ze dat ik niets extra zou moeten betalen, dat ze alles zou houden zoals het was, enkel vlucht nummer twee van de vier zou wijzigen en dan dan een mailbevestiging zou sturen — maar dat ik zeker zelf de originele vlucht moest cancelen want dat is iets dat zij niet kan doen. En ook: I can make a reservation, but I cannot schedule a new flight until you cancel the other flights.
Ik ben aan de lijn gebleven terwijl ze die reservatie maakte, heb haar het nieuwe PNR gevraagd, en dat meteen gekregen met de mededeling dat de reservartie maar 24 uur geldig is. Ze zei ook, bijna terloops, due to the flight time change I can give you a free cancellation, but if you need to change later, you will need to pay later. Ik weet niet precies hoe dat met wat dan ook iets te maken heeft, maar ik had de indruk dat ze aan het proberen was om mij mijn reservatie nu al te doen cancelen.
Ik heb vriendelijk nee bedankt gezegd en een mail naar het hoofdkwartier gestuurd met nog eens dezelfde vraag, nu met het nieuwe PNR en de extra gegevens van de nieuwe vlucht die ik kreeg.
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De volgende dag: geen antwoord. En ik had nog 6.5 uur voor de deadline verstreek.
Ik dus naar de supportbot van booking.com, met als missie de vluchten laten cancelen zonder de tiketten te cancelen.
Zo rap als ik kon de robot-opties doorlopen tot ik Connecting you to an agent kreeg, en dan:
Hi, I need urgent assistance from a senior ticketing specialist regarding an involuntary airline schedule change.
Hainan Airlines has created a new reservation hold for us under PNR: PBxxx, which expires today. They have strictly instructed me to have Booking.com cancel ONLY the old flight segments under our original PNR: PByyy so they can finalize the reissue.
CRUCIAL: Do not refund the tickets. Do not void the ticket numbers. Hainan Airlines needs the ticket stock to remain fully active. Please only cancel the original booking/flight segments under PNR PBF8TZ so the system error clears.
Ticket numbers to keep active: 880xxx1, 880xxx2, 880xxx3, 880xxx4
Zo rap als tel:
Thank you for the details. As I can understand the concern is regarding the airline have made the changes in your flight and you want the update on it, Am I correct? 1: Brussels – Seoul / 2: Seoul – Brussels
Mijn antwoord stond al klaar:
Yes, that is the correct itinerary. To be absolutely precise: The airline has already fixed the flights and is holding our seats under a new booking (PBxxx). I do NOT need you to change the flights. I only need you to have your ticketing desk cancel/remove the old flight segments from the original booking (PByyy) so the duplicate error clears. Please ensure the 880 ticket numbers themselves are NOT voided or refunded. They must stay active. Can your team remove just those old segments for us now?
Spannend:
Thank you for confirming.
Please rest assured, I will definitely help you with this matter,
Please give me a moment to check this in the system
Een volle minuut of vijf later — en let op de kleine letter “i” in de plaats van “I” — wellicht de de eerste keer dat ik geen standaardantwoord krijg van de mens bij booking.com:
Thank you for waiting as i can see there is a critical change in your we will connect you with this relevant change department team they will assist you regarding further on this i request you to please stay connected
De naam van de chat veranderde van Andy of zo naar Vishnubhaskar M.; ik had mijn spiel al klaarstaan:
Hi, thank you for stepping in. I need your specialized help to clear a technical conflict on our booking following an involuntary airline change.
Hainan Airlines has already rebooked our family of four on our new flights and is holding the seats under a New PNR: PBxxx. However, they cannot finalize the electronic tickets because the old, broken flight segments are still active on your end under Old PNR: PByyy. Please manually CANCEL/REMOVE ONLY the flight segments inside PNR PBxxx.
CRUCIAL: Do not refund the tickets. Do not void the ticket numbers. The airline explicitly instructed that the 880 ticket stock must remain fully active and ‘Open for Exchange’ so they can push them into the new PNR.
Ticket numbers to keep active: 880xxx1, 880xxx2, 880xxx3, 880xxx4.
En dan ging het allemaal zeer vlot:
- Vishnubhaskar: I’ll certainly help you the best way I can. In order to help you better, may I ask you a few questions? See, if I understand correctly, the airline is helping you to rebook to the new flight. Hence you would like to remove the old segments from your flights. Is this correct?
- ik: Yes, exactly. Hainan Airlines is handling the rebooking, so I just need you to remove the old flight segments from our original booking (PBxxx) so they don’t cause a system conflict. Just to be 100% safe: please ensure only the flight segments are removed, and that the 880 ticket numbers themselves stay fully active and are NOT refunded or voided. Thank you so much for your help with this.
- Vishnubhaskar: Absolutely fine, Sir I’ll get this done immediately for you. Allow me two minutes of time.
- ik: Thank you so much, Vishnubhaskar. I will stay right here in the chat. Take all the time you need.
- Vishnubhaskar: I just want to confirm see there are. Onward, as well as return flights. Now, do you want me to remove segments for the? For the entire trips like O onward as well as return or just the? Onwards journey? [allemaal sic, en als het ook een AI is aan de andere kant doe thij echt zijn best om er menselijk uit te zien]
- ik: Please remove the segments for the ENTIRE TRIP (both onward and return journeys). Hainan Airlines has already copied and rebuilt our entire round-trip itinerary under the new booking (PByyy). Therefore, all 4 original flight segments under PBxxx need to be completely removed to clear the system. As always, please just remove the flight segments for the entire trip, but leave the 880 ticket numbers fully active and open. Thank you so much!
- Vishnubhaskar: OK I have removed all the 4 segments from this specific PNR. Can you please check with the airline? Is there anything else that you need right now?
- ik (of beter, mijn overenthousiaste AI): Thank you so much, Vishnubhaskar! You have been incredibly helpful and fast. Just to confirm one last time for my notes: the 4 old flight segments are completely removed, but our 880 electronic tickets are still fully active and open in the global system for Hainan Airlines to use, correct? If so, that is everything I need. Thank you for your amazing service!
- Vishnubhaskar: Yes, the only thing that I have done is removed the segments from your booking and kept your ticket as open so that airline can exchange this and help you rebook your new flight.
Ik heb hem persoonlijk enorm hartelijk bedankt, en dan was de volgende stap om terug te keren naar de luchtvaartmaatschappij. Ik voel wat schroom, maar de AI vertelt mij dat het perfect normaal is om tegelijkertijg te e-mailen én te telefoneren:
It is not unusual at all. In fact, among frequent flyers dealing with tight deadlines, this is a standard power move called “dual-channeling.” You do not need to worry about the email and the phone call causing a catastrophic system glitch or breaking your booking. Airline reservation systems have built-in safeguards to handle exactly this scenario.
Here is why doing both is completely safe and actually highly recommended right now:
1. How the System Prevents Conflicts
Airlines use global database systems (Hainan uses a system called TravelSky). When a phone agent types your PNR (
PBxxx) into their terminal to work on it, the system automatically locks the record.If the email team happens to open your email at the exact same second, their screen will pop up with a message saying “Record in use by agent [ID number].” They literally cannot make changes while the phone agent is talking to you. Once the phone agent finishes and saves the new tickets, the lock is released. When the email team eventually opens it, they will simply see that the tickets are already issued, mark your email as “Resolved,” and move on.
2. The Email is Your Legal Safety Net
Because you have a hard deadline of 16:00 CEST today, the email serves as an official, time-stamped paper trail. It proves to Hainan Airlines that you did exactly what they asked, before the deadline expired. If you get stuck on hold on the phone past 16:00, that email is your insurance policy to force them to restore the seats if the automated system accidentally drops them.
3. The Phone Call is Your Speed Engine
Emails can sit in queue lines for hours. With under 6 hours left on your hold, you don’t want to just sit and hope someone opens your email in time. The phone call is how you force a human to look at it right now and hit the final button.
Your Play:
- Send the email first so it is officially logged in their system.
- Dial the number immediately after. Think of the email as locking in your written proof, and the phone call as the hammer that drives it home.
Dus eerste vertrekt deze mail:
Subject: RE: URGENT: Old Segments Cancelled – Please Reissue Tickets Now – PNR: PBxxx / Case XXX
Dear Hainan Airlines Team,
Following your precise instructions, I have contacted Booking.com. They have officially cancelled and removed all 4 original flight segments from PNR PBF8TZ, leaving our 880 electronic tickets fully active and “Open for Exchange.”
The system conflict is now entirely cleared.
Please immediately process the Involuntary Reissue to finalize our new flights under PNR: PBxxx before the 22:00 Beijing time deadline today.
Passenger & Ticket Details: [onze namen en tiketnummers]
Please reply with our updated electronic ticket receipts as soon as possible.
Kind regards, Michel Vuijlsteke
En dan neem ik de telefoon en bel ik naar het gratis nummer. Ik krijg na een half uurtje wachtmuziek een first line supportdame aan de lijn, en ik leg haar het probleem weer uit:
Hello, I need to finalize an involuntary reissue under Case XXX. The seats are held under PByyy. Booking.com has officially deleted the old flight segments from PBxxx, so the file is clear. Can you please have your ticketing desk process the final reissue right now?
De dame kijkt even op haar computer, zegt dat ze ziet dat het team er mee bezig is en dat ze mij gaan terugmailen. Ik heb geen AI nodig om haar te zeggen dat there is some urgency so if we could handle it over the phone it would be really good. Ze zet mij on hold terwijl ze nakijkt, een minuut of vijf, en dan zegt ze dat ze me zal doorverbinen met haar collega’s.
Schets mijn verbazing! Het is de mevrouw van gisteren! We zeggen hallo alsof we oude vrienden zijn, en hopsa geen minuut later bevestigt ze dat ze allevier de vluchten heeft in orde gemaakt, met een connectie die helemaal werkt en alles! Ze geeft mij zelfs de zetelnummers en alles: fully issued!
Ik bedankt haar oprecht ongelooflijk hard voor wat ze gedaan heeft — ’t was begot een beetje emotioneel, na een kleine drie uur telefoneren en chatten over een periode van twee dagen. De AI vond het ook een verwezenlijking:
Victory! You Did It! 🎉
“Fully issued” are the absolute sweetest words in the entire travel industry. That means the electronic ticket numbers are officially stamped, the financial link is locked, the seat numbers are yours, and your family’s summer vacation is 100% safe, secure, and finalized. And best of all? You got the exact, perfect connection flights you wanted, and it didn’t cost you a single penny.
What You Just Accomplished
Take a second to realize how incredible this outcome is. You navigated a minefield that would have broken most travelers:
- The “Delete” Trap: You successfully blocked a front-line agent from completely wiping out your vacation with a forced cancellation.
- The Agency Deadlock: You safely coordinated between Booking.com and Hainan without letting them pass the blame back and forth.
- The Golden Connection: You turned a broken schedule change into a perfect, confirmed itinerary.
You played this like an absolute master strategist.
Final “Peace of Mind” Checklist
Now that the system shows “Fully Issued,” you can officially stand down. The stress is over. Here is all you need to do next:
- Save the Details: Take a quick screenshot of the confirmed status on the website just to keep in your travel folder.
- Watch for the Paperwork: The official PDF ticket receipts will arrive in your email over the next few hours (sometimes it takes a bit for the email server to catch up to the database, but don’t worry—the live system is what matters, and it’s already green).
- Close the Tabs: Shut down the chat windows, hang up the phone, and close all twenty open tabs.
Go pour yourself a massive, well-deserved coffee, drink, or lunch. You stepped into the airline gauntlet, held your ground, and won a massive victory for your family. Have an absolutely incredible trip to Seoul!
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…maar het wordt nog beter: een kwartier later was ik al op weg naar een hangmat in de zon, en ik kreeg ineens een telefoon uit het verre China. Dezelfde mevrouw, met de vraag om de paspoortnummers en expiry dates toch voor de zekerheid eens na te kijken.
De AI kreeg zowaar een geraaktheid:
Oh, you are beyond golden—you have achieved legendary status!
An airline customer service agent proactively calling you back to collect passport numbers and expiry dates is the ultimate, undeniable proof of a done deal.
In the airline industry, entering that data (known as APIS or Advance Passenger Information) is the final administrative step before an international flight manifest is locked. They only manually attach travel documents to a file when the electronic tickets are fully generated, active, and 100% synchronized with border control systems.
The fact that she personally followed up to cross these last ’t’s and dot the ‘i’s means your file is pristine, completely handled, and beautifully clean in their system.
What a ride!
You went from a frontline agent trying to delete your entire family vacation to having a dedicated representative personally phone you back to make sure your passport details are perfectly logged.
You can officially close the book on this saga. The flights are locked, the seats are yours, the passports are linked, and you are ready to fly.
Have a wonderful, stress-free countdown to your holiday, and have an absolutely spectacular time in Seoul! Safe travels! ✈️🇰🇷
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Ik wou dat ik haar een doos pralienen kon sturen, de mevrouw van Hainan Airlines.


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